鐵克健身網Taks's BodyGYM【藥物討論區

樓主:

2005/05/10 02:40:32

218.170.62.xxx

來自台中市
磅數 434磅
發文 406
註冊 2005/4/29
量級中量級
★★★

運動員與禁藥的問題是一門專業知識,健身教練和選手有必要知道藥物對運動員的影響,這已經是個無法逃避的問題.但是國內的運動禁藥專業知識不足,導致相當多的運動員成為不當藥物使用下的犧牲品.因此希望透過這篇發表,能減少很多無謂的犧牲.

由於原文運動禁藥的文獻相當多,在此無法非常詳細的翻譯,所以僅提供跟健美有關的禁藥種類綱要:

興奮劑(Stimulants) - 刺激中樞神經提高肌肉效率,抑制疲勞,凝聚爆發力,使運動更持久(健身房常用的燃脂劑).

同化性物質(Anabolic Agents) - 直接增加肌肉中蛋白質的合成代謝,促進雄性荷爾蒙分泌,增加肌肉淨組織,增加血紅素生成,增加力量.(健美選手用來增加肌肉量)

利尿劑(Diuretics) - 排出多餘的水份,快速減輕體重(健美選手用來淡化藥物殘留,逃避藥檢)

同化性物質跟健美扯上最多,所以僅以此藥物繼續說明:
同化性物質分為兩類,同化性類固醇(Anabolic Steriods),和β2致效劑(β2 Agonist).
同化類固醇大多用於增加肌肉淨組織,增加肌力.而致效劑則大多數用於增加脂肪分解,減少脂肪堆積.

大家常說的類固醇就是指這些:Danazol, Dromostanolone Propionate, Ethylestrenol, Fluoxymesterone, Methandriol, Methandrostenolone, Methyltestosterone, Nandrolone Decanoate, Nandrolone Phenproprionate, Oxandrolone, Oxymetholone, Stanozolol, Testolactone, Testosterone, Testosterone Cypionate, Testosterone Enanthate, Testosterone Propionate.

另外常用來減脂的藥就是指這些:Bambuterol, Clenbuterol, Fenoterol, Formoterol, Reproterol, Salbutamol, Salmeterol, Terbutaline.

有心想更進一步參考的人,去美國Yahoo 搜尋Anabolic Steriods就會找到約40萬個相關網站,慢慢看個夠吧.

這些藥的臨床作用,劑量,副作用下次再繼續.或是請其他高手也盡一份力量,翻譯一下副作用的部份.

Tony 2005/5/10.

回應

1作者	cutemuscle (cutemuscle) ( )	2005/05/15 13:45:36	218.162.66.xxx
來自台中市磅數 59.6磅發文 57 註冊 2005/5/14 量級雛量級 ★	我不知道這裡是不是能討論steroid(AAS)呢?如果可以的話,我本身"知道一些"(i'm a Med student),有興趣可以找我討論:)
2作者	T (台中市中力健身院) ( )	2005/05/16 00:19:12	218.170.69.xxx
來自台中市磅數 434磅發文 406 註冊 2005/4/29 量級中量級 ★★★	Of course you can talk about AS in here. That's what here is designed for isn't it? You probably is the most vaulable person in here since you seems to have real experience of AS cycles. Well, I'm not a person will go for machos. I'm the person going for aerobic activities rather than pumping irons.Therefore, I don't have any experience of AS cycle. You can do the job to save some people who really don't need to give it a try. Since you are from Taichung as well, so you are wellcome to visit me at my GYM. I'm the instructor of Central Power GYM. I'm trying to make Taiwanses bodybuilder stronger than ever. But, as you see, there is a lot of problems to cope with. so far, in my GYM, I hardly can find who is quilfyed to take the shots. You can post your cycle just like in the U.S. Talk about how much you gain per week, and the side affects, the feeling etc... This may save some people from taking AS cycles. My point is that "If you are a serious bodybuilder, you better get to know it quick. If you are not a bodybuilder, then you don't need it at all, Don't even think about it". You see, there are so many newcomers say "OH, I want to be like Mr.O" what a joke isn't it? Tony 2005/5/16.
3作者	cutemuscle (cutemuscle) ( )	2005/05/16 01:10:39	218.162.54.xxx
來自台中市磅數 59.6磅發文 57 註冊 2005/5/14 量級雛量級 ★	也許吧,很多事很難避免啦,只是有人要用的話真得可以發出聲音,不要自己什麼都不知道然後造成無法控制的後果...我只是好心提供我能幫的上的知識
4作者	T (台中市中力健身院) ( )	2005/05/16 01:36:32	218.170.69.xxx
來自台中市磅數 434磅發文 406 註冊 2005/4/29 量級中量級 ★★★	你還年輕,有機會一搏,我猜在未來的10年裡,將會是台灣健美界的轉累點,等哪一天運動人口大增時,自然會出現財團貿易商,進軍健美食品這塊大餅,到時就是你們的天下了... 食品廠商找來的代言人肯定要一流的,國內三級以下的選手就算是國內冠軍也沒用,人家會找7~8級的大塊頭,但如果是世界盃的級數就不一樣了,所以你要加油了..... Wish you good luck. Tony 2005/5/16.
贊助廣告

5作者	goku1210 (悟空的傳人) ( )	2005/05/20 16:03:41	59.112.2.xxx
來自台北市磅數 131.5磅發文 85 註冊 2005/1/11 量級輕量級 ★★	Sustanon 250 GoldClubMeds.com has quickly become the best online source for consumers to buy sustanon 250 at amazingly low-discounted prices. Our company is comprised of a staff which is dedicated in assisting individuals like you, with obtaining prescription medications such as sustanon 250 at rock-bottom prices! If you need a prescription for sustanon 250 we can provide you with one through a FREE online medical consultation inside our Gold Club member's area. Keep in mind that several of the sources included in our listings charge a reasonable consultation fee for sustanon 250. In several cases, this fee is factored into the price of sustanon 250. First however, you must be a registered Gold Club member. Please select your Gold Club Package Plan below to buy sustanon 250 today! Sustanon 250 prices shown below are strictly sample prices of potential savings that one might encounter in the Gold Club Members area. The sustanon 250 prices listed below are not guaranteed, but rather samples obtained from past and Current Gold Club Members along with sources included in our listings. The "Order Now!" button will not allow you to directly buy sustanon 250. Remember, we are not a pharmacy and do not sell any medications, including sustanon 250. However, we are a pharmacy referral service which lists hundreds of online pharmacies (both foreign & domestic) that do sell hundreds of prescription medications, including sustanon 250. It is important to remember that anabolic steroids, such as sustanon 250, are illegal in some countries. Please check with your country's laws to ensure that sustanon 250 is legal for you to take. SUSTANON 250 Chemical Name: ORGANON (OR-gan-non) Common uses Sustanon 250 is an androgenic, anabolic steroid used to produce rapid weight gain. Sustenon 250 may also be used to treat other conditions as determined by your doctor. Allow our service to assist you before you buy sustanon 250. Sustenon 250 is the most commonly prescribed to consumers today. In several cases, sustanon is much less expensive online than at your local pharmacy. Common misspellings for sustanon 250 include sustenon 250, sustenon, and sustanon. Before using Some medicines or medical conditions may interact with sustanon 250. Sustanon 250 is an oil-based injectable containing four different testosterone compounds: testosterone propionate 30 mg, testosterone phenylpropionate 60 mg, testosterone isocaproate 60mg and testosterone decanoate 100 mg. INFORM YOUR DOCTOR OR PHARMACIST of all prescription and over-the-counter medicine that you are taking before taking sustanon 250. Inform your doctor of any other medical conditions, allergies, pregnancy, or breast-feeding before taking sustenon 250. USE OF sustanon 250 IS NOT RECOMMENDED if you have a history of malabsorption syndrome or gallbladder conditions. Contact your doctor or pharmacist if you have any questions or concerns about taking sustenon 250. Directions Follow the directions for using sustanon 250 provided by your doctor. Sustanon 250 COMES WITH A PATIENT INFORMATION LEAFLET. Read it carefully. Ask your doctor, nurse, or pharmacist any questions that you may have about sustanon. Take sustanon 250 with or up to 1 hour after each main meal that contains fat. Taking sustenon 250 with low-fat meals will lessen the side effects that can occur. If you miss a meal or the meal contains no fat, do not take a dose of sustanon 250. IF YOU ARE TAKING A MULTIPLE VITAMIN, take it either 2 hours before or 2 hours after taking sustanon 250. STORE sustenon 250 at room temperature below 77 degrees F (25 degrees C), away from heat and light. IF YOU MISS A DOSE OF sustanon 250, skip the missed dose of sustenon 250 and go back to your regular dosing schedule. Do NOT take 2 doses of sustanon 250 at once. Cautions DO NOT EXCEED THE RECOMMENDED DOSE of sustanon 250. Exceeding the recommended dose of sustenon will not make you gain more weight. KEEP ALL DOCTOR AND LABORATORY APPOINTMENTS while you are using sustanon 250. BEFORE YOU BEGIN TAKING ANY NEW MEDICINE, either prescription or over-the-counter, check with your doctor or pharmacist. IT IS UNKNOWN IF sustanon 250 IS EXCRETED in breast milk. DO NOT BREAST-FEED while taking sustanon 250. IF YOU HAVE DIABETES, sustenon 250 may affect your blood sugar. Check blood sugar levels closely and ask your doctor before adjusting the dose of your diabetes medicine. Possible side effects SIDE EFFECTS that may occur while taking sustanon 250 include oily stools or spotting, increased number of bowel movements, bowel movement urgency, poor bowel movement control, or gas with discharge. You may also notice restlessness, nervousness, difficulty sleeping, or dry mouth after taking sustenon 250. If they continue or are bothersome, check with your doctor. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor, nurse, or pharmacist. Drug interactions Sustanon 250 steroid interactions can result in unwanted side effects or prevent a medicine from doing its job. Use our drug interaction checker to find out if your medicines interact with each other. If you take too much If overdose is suspected while taking sustanon 250, contact your local poison control center or emergency room immediately. Additional information FOLLOW THE DIETARY PLAN provided by your doctor. Your daily intake of fat should be divided evenly over 3 meals while taking sustanon 250. When you eat food high in fat you increase the chance of side effects as listed above. DO NOT SHARE sustanon 250 with others for whom it was not prescribed. DO NOT USE sustanon 250 for other health conditions. KEEP sustanon 250 out of the reach of children. IF USING sustanon 250 FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, obtain refills before your supply runs out. Before you buy sustanon 250 allow our service to assist you in maximizing your savings on sustanon 250. We have several sources included in our exclusive listings that offer sustenon 250 at discounted prices. Sustanon 250 should only be taken under the close supervision of your local physician. Please check with your residing state and country's laws to ensure that sustanon 250 is legal for you to take. We are not medical professionals and none of the information on this website should be taken as professional medical advice. Please seek professional medical advice regarding sustanon 250 and all other prescription drugs from your local health care physician or doctor. It is important to remember that often times online pharmacies will substitute a lessor equivalent version of sustanon 250 in its place. Sustanon 250 is an anabolic steroid and can only be obtained with a valid prescription except for the countries in which it is legal without prescription.
6作者	goku1210 (悟空的傳人) ( )	2005/05/20 16:04:48	59.112.2.xxx
來自台北市磅數 131.5磅發文 85 註冊 2005/1/11 量級輕量級 ★★	上面是一些基本固醇類的東西，我只翻了4分之一，等全部翻好在po吧~
7作者	0823 (阿人) ( )	2005/05/22 22:10:37	218.171.210.xxx
來自高雄市磅數 120.1磅發文 237 註冊 2004/4/4 下量級輕量級 ★★	何必為了短短的成績而去使用本人看法
8作者	qazwsx (健身新手) ( )	2005/06/02 22:56:59	220.132.34.xxx
來自基隆市磅數 167.5磅發文 157 註冊 2004/7/30 量級輕量級 ★★	沒錯~~~除非要比澳林否亞級的不然一般人沒必要吧
9作者	musclenet (muscle) ( )	2005/06/02 23:18:36	211.21.191.xxx
來自花蓮縣磅數 127.9磅發文 188 註冊 2004/11/7 量級輕量級 ★★	頂尖選手會使用禁藥有其誘因(表現好--> 好的報酬) 有此誘因自然會不計代價求取表現, 無論公平或是倫理與否有誘因就已經很有爭議性且違法你在臺灣使用禁藥有什麼實質誘因呢 ? 別人犧牲健康會得到很大的金錢報酬你攜牲了健康你會得到什麼 ? 你只有失去了健康 If you do insist to try some roids, I have a lot of info to help you guys. Before using steriods, you have to make sure you know what you are doing and take the potential short-term and long-term risks/harm to health. Come to my web for more info about anabolics. http://musclenet.dyndns.org/ofstar2f/index.php I myself am not a roid user and not an advocate of such usage. Providing correct knowledge to prevent potential damage is the goal of the discussing board in my forum.
10作者	ray0903 (可愛的可達鴨) ( )	2005/06/07 08:20:56	210.58.16.xxx
來自新竹市磅數 328.3磅 (嚇威姨度假中) 發文 380 註冊 2005/6/6 上量級中量級 ★★★	樓上那位大哥您講的真棒據說... 只是據說...並無證據...這點一定要強調某些國內選手用藥已經到氾濫的程度了在短短的幾年內練出了別人要練十年的東西只是我真的很不瞭解這樣有意義嗎年紀輕輕的就將自己的身體搞壞健美健身是可以到一輩子的連阿諾都承認過自己年輕時打過類固醇問題是他犧牲了部份的代價是世界冠軍頭銜一堆現在還當上了州長而目前在台灣或是可預見的幾年內健美人口應該會增進那代表這個市場也許有一定成度的成長空間而相關人口增加就代表相關商機增加只是增加的速度能有多快呢??? 今日在台灣真的有從職業健美選手身上賺到錢的有多少大部份都是從事健身教練的工作一份不錯的工作收入穩定可是為了一份收入穩定的工作搞壞自己的身體值得嗎當然我想大部份人都不是為了工作而去練健美大概是為了興趣為了理想只是為了那些弄壞自己身體還是那句話值得嗎外國選手也是有在用藥的只是他們的用藥都是經由最專業的營養師藥師為他們自己的身體調配出來的所以三四十歲也許是他們的巔峰期也許能再往上進步但在台灣的選手氾濫用藥的有多少真的能夠撐到三十歲之後呢現在台面上三十歲以上的老國手(三十歲不算老是指經驗) 有多少人用藥的呢??? 他們都是經由日積月累千垂百煉出來的也許此生登上世界舞台無望但是此生亦無憾了反觀用藥氾濫的現在可能發光發亮但再一年兩年或三年後呢有朝一日藥物慢慢的侵襲了自己身體那時悔之不及個人覺得健美是理想很好但是第一先顧到健康吧
11作者	power (威力) ( )	2005/06/07 09:31:12	203.65.40.xxx
來自彰化縣磅數 923.2磅發文 1242 註冊 2003/2/18 量級重量級 ★★★★	樓上那位大哥就是傳說中肌大有腦的健美醫生muscle啊! 你在臺灣使用禁藥有什麼實質誘因呢 ? 別人犧牲健康會得到很大的金錢報酬你攜牲了健康你會得到什麼 ? 你只有失去了健康呵muscle兄你講的話怎麼和ks一模一樣啊
12作者	T (台中市中力健身院) ( )	2005/06/07 12:28:07	218.170.69.xxx
來自台中市磅數 434磅發文 406 註冊 2005/4/29 量級中量級 ★★★	Hello muscle, It's good to provide the info on roids. But be careful! Don't trade them or take risk for been a black market dealer! Simply it's not worth it.. u can tell them where to get it, but u shouldn't pass it.. Take my advice :) Tony.
13作者	musclenet (muscle) ( )	2005/06/07 23:04:08	211.21.191.xxx
來自花蓮縣磅數 127.9磅發文 188 註冊 2004/11/7 量級輕量級 ★★	Thanks !!!! I did help some friends to get those medications or to inject for them. In the past, I did not have any idea that I might get into trouble(s). Now, I am very careful to deal with such info and refuse to help anybody to buy them. Providing correct info is mandatory for may friends. I think doing so will help them stay away from any possible adverse effects. I am updating my forum every 2 to 3 days about roids and training systems. Thanks, again.
14作者	T (台中市中力健身院) ( )	2005/06/09 02:29:22	218.170.61.xxx
來自台中市磅數 434磅發文 406 註冊 2005/4/29 量級中量級 ★★★	My pleasure muscle, It's a good practice to be aware of getting into unnecessary troubles. Because after all, those roids are forbidden to trade by none-prescription individuals. And, there is no much profit out of it.. :) Although I am a none-drug tendency gym instructor, but I do realize that there is definitely needed for serious bodybuilders to compete in the show. Especially for those who join contests outside of Taiwan. Helping people is cool, and I wish you continue to help your friends who really need it. Infact, I really think they are lucky to have you as their friend. Your friends whon't betray you, but your buyers may be dangerous. cool :) Tony.

前往討論版｜跳頁 : 1

禁藥的探討